I completed the paperwork and sent it off to both parties (i.e. Child Support Office/Officer and the Court). Now I await their responses to see what will happen. I should receive a response from the child support office pertaining to my passport being denied within 7 days. I am very curious to see how these events unfold. Thank you for giving me a method to use information appropriately in this situation. Now I just have to sit and wait.
I will keep everyone informed on the response I receive. Ms. Anne, it would be Greatly beneficial if we were able to upload the documents we receive from the courts. The language may be useful for all to see based on the uniformity of the court system (i.e. usage of legal terminology). As a result, we could be in a position to respond appropriately, consistently and it can be used as teaching tool. Just my thoughts.
I have not received any response except for stating that my passport will be reinstated once I pay all my arrears! They have not responded to any of the other documentation I have sent.
I have been in the child support course for 8 months now. I started working on the administrative process. I got to the second notice that you send to the child support agency and sent it out. Shortly after that the Lawful notice came out. So I switched over to the Lawful notice and put all my focus into it. Skip forward, I finally get to my hearing for the Lawful notice. The Judge decides to give a written opinion. I get the written opinion and the judge denies it. She literally shit on everything. I honestly was hurt because I stood hard on that document. I practiced it daily and studied the course. I was ready. I’m not giving up but it was very discouraging and heartbreaking for that to happen.
I guess my question is… Where do I go from here? In your live streams you said to look for violations in my case file. I plan on doing that. But I need to know what to say to the clerk when I request my entire file. It’s my property, so how do I request it without paying their fees. I don’t know what violations I should be looking for. Or how to bring them forward for an action.
The judge can and will shit on everything because she is operating on the assumption that you do not know your rights so she believes you don’t know how to hold her accountable. The way to know the violations is to know the law and know the rules and procedures of the court. I have given you the laws, you can learn the rules and procedures of the court by asking the clerk of court for the court procedures if it’s not listed on the court website. The judge want you to give up. Don’t. Keep going and you will win.
I am learning this stuff slowly. So say i find multiple violations in my case file. I’m assuming that I would want to present the findings as evidence for a dismissal. Would that be through an appeal to a higher court, Or do I give the Judge a chance to dismiss the case? I’m asking this now because I know once I find the violations I will be itching to move forward and file documents to the appropriate court.
I just want to make a path for the next person who has to deal with this to have a blueprint. The Judge is very very bold to say the least.
I’ve been playing with the idea of filing a writ of habeas corpus. I know that this operates outside of what’s in this course. But do you think something like that could work? 1 Violation I have found is that there was no trial by jury. The bill of rights protects against the restraint of liberty caused by a judgment not by peers.
Harris v. Nelson, 394 US 286 – Supreme Court 1969 the writ of habeas corpus is the fundamental instrument for safeguarding individual freedom against arbitrary and lawless state action, and thereby any judgment not by peers for child support is a lawless action in violation of due course of law of the land.
I feel like there’s something key that I’m missing to win my child support case. I plan on going down to the Clerk tomorrow and asking for my entire case file. They are assholes so I know there going to give a hard counter when I request it for free. Is there a specific statement I should say Or claim indigent? I will post updates here on my findings.
About the administrative process. 2nd notice was send and I’m going to continue the process because why not. In the foundations video there’s a step 3. which is sending the same package, titled Final attempt – (attach) Notice of default with opportunity to Cure. I think I found a suitable template for that on Scribd. My question is when do I send the FEE SCHEDULE from the course? Should I attach that as well or would that be a separate step?
No worries, I wish you a speedy recovery, the world needs people like you. I went down to the Clerk’s office and took a look at things in my case file, which they do electronically at one of their computers now. I don’t know what exactly I’m looking for. But I did see things that were stamped in the signature line and not signed with ink. I will go back down there next week and request copies of everything. I will get a copy of the rules and procedures of the court. I plan on looking over it all throughout the week. I’ll highlight anything meaningful. Is there a way you could publish a list of some possible violations to look for. Or maybe a template we can use to file and get the court to take action on those violations.
I did some thinking… I’m pretty sure alot of us feel this way. At this point, I don’t even want to go after the Judge or any other official. I just want them to stop taking my money, a refund and cease intruding in my life and my kids lives. Especially when there’s no valid reason, threat or injury to anyone. I’m sure the Judge and court officials have families and kids and wouldn’t like it if they were treated the way they treat us. I don’t even want them to experience that. I just want the foolishness to stop…
The agency is in dishonor due to non-response, nor have I received any further mail from the agency. BUT the court issued a wage garnishment order during the administrative hearing, that I never signed. Do I stay the course with the administrative process? What’s the best course of action to get the Title IV-D “judge” and his fake order under control?
I’ve been studying the processes. However, when I go to download the templates, it only downloads them as a PDF, not a word doc so I can edit the red text. In addition, If I view it through google docs to attempt to edit, the font is funky and the red text doesn’t show up. Could you please attach the word doc to the course? OR is there another way to actually edit the templates? Looking forward to hearing from you.
Greeting sister Anelia. Thank you for sharing your acquired wisdom – SO empowering! I’m preparing to start the administrative process, but I have 2 questions:
I have ONLY received presentments from the court, NOT the Division of Child Support DCS (their name in my state). First payment was set Nov. 18th. I have researched their HQ (a few cities away) and have their PO BOX address, BUT there is also a local child support office (in the county they “served” me in) and on the local office’s website I see the directors name (to attach someones name to it) and I have their physical address. Which office would be ideal to send the paperwork to? Also, what are your thoughts on not receiving paperwork from the agency, just the court (Prosecuting Attorney – Family Support Division)? Thank you.
Does anyone who has gone through the first phases of the administration process have any suggestions? As time passes with no action I know that their up to something. Nothing just stays idle when dealing with serpents.
I have not received any response except for stating that my passport will be reinstated once I pay all my arrears! They have not responded to any of the other documentation I have sent.
I am at the end per se of the time permitted for the course and I have not received a satisfactory response from the Child Support Agency (i.e. closing the case). I am sending out the 3rd round which should align me within my rights to present the documents to the court. You mention presenting the documents to the court and they have to rule non-judicially if I recall correctly. What does that process entail? I am not sure it was spelled out like the other information you provided. Also, how can I continue with the access I have until this is resolved? Thank you in advance and for the support you have provided thus far. Happy Holidays to Everyone also!!!!
Anelia, I live out of state from where my CS order is. Do I hand deliver the documents to the CS Office here where I live or have to travel back to where the CS originated? The CS Office here where I live is acting on behalf of the CS Office where the original Support Order originated. Also, I cannot find the Cover letter template.
I’m unable to get the case workers last name what do I do and should I still send the paper work even though they haven’t given the the Last name? If someone can assist me that would be awesome.
Anelia, I just want to double check before I send the paperwork out. For an active CS order, do I send the courts the all the same paperwork as I do the Agency? If not, can you please list what I need to send to the courts?
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I completed the paperwork and sent it off to both parties (i.e. Child Support Office/Officer and the Court). Now I await their responses to see what will happen. I should receive a response from the child support office pertaining to my passport being denied within 7 days. I am very curious to see how these events unfold. Thank you for giving me a method to use information appropriately in this situation. Now I just have to sit and wait.
keep us updated on the out come
Definitely keep us updated brother. Question, we’re only supposed to mail the paperwork to the agency, right? Not the court.
Anne
I apologize. I inadvertently post this in the open form…please forgive me!
I appreciate you and apology acceted, Wendell.
Thanks Anne
I’ve signed up for the one-on-one!
I will keep everyone informed on the response I receive. Ms. Anne, it would be Greatly beneficial if we were able to upload the documents we receive from the courts. The language may be useful for all to see based on the uniformity of the court system (i.e. usage of legal terminology). As a result, we could be in a position to respond appropriately, consistently and it can be used as teaching tool. Just my thoughts.
@Coach B – Hey brotha, any update or response on your administrative process?
I have not received any response except for stating that my passport will be reinstated once I pay all my arrears! They have not responded to any of the other documentation I have sent.
Anelia,
I have been in the child support course for 8 months now. I started working on the administrative process. I got to the second notice that you send to the child support agency and sent it out. Shortly after that the Lawful notice came out. So I switched over to the Lawful notice and put all my focus into it. Skip forward, I finally get to my hearing for the Lawful notice. The Judge decides to give a written opinion. I get the written opinion and the judge denies it. She literally shit on everything. I honestly was hurt because I stood hard on that document. I practiced it daily and studied the course. I was ready. I’m not giving up but it was very discouraging and heartbreaking for that to happen.
I guess my question is… Where do I go from here? In your live streams you said to look for violations in my case file. I plan on doing that. But I need to know what to say to the clerk when I request my entire file. It’s my property, so how do I request it without paying their fees. I don’t know what violations I should be looking for. Or how to bring them forward for an action.
The judge can and will shit on everything because she is operating on the assumption that you do not know your rights so she believes you don’t know how to hold her accountable. The way to know the violations is to know the law and know the rules and procedures of the court. I have given you the laws, you can learn the rules and procedures of the court by asking the clerk of court for the court procedures if it’s not listed on the court website. The judge want you to give up. Don’t. Keep going and you will win.
I am learning this stuff slowly. So say i find multiple violations in my case file. I’m assuming that I would want to present the findings as evidence for a dismissal. Would that be through an appeal to a higher court, Or do I give the Judge a chance to dismiss the case? I’m asking this now because I know once I find the violations I will be itching to move forward and file documents to the appropriate court.
I just want to make a path for the next person who has to deal with this to have a blueprint. The Judge is very very bold to say the least.
Anelia,
I’ve been playing with the idea of filing a writ of habeas corpus. I know that this operates outside of what’s in this course. But do you think something like that could work? 1 Violation I have found is that there was no trial by jury. The bill of rights protects against the restraint of liberty caused by a judgment not by peers.
Harris v. Nelson, 394 US 286 – Supreme Court 1969 the writ of habeas corpus is the fundamental instrument for safeguarding individual freedom against arbitrary and lawless state action, and thereby any judgment not by peers for child support is a lawless action in violation of due course of law of the land.
Or should I go back to the administrative process? I left off sending the second notice to the Agency with no response.
Anelia,
I feel like there’s something key that I’m missing to win my child support case. I plan on going down to the Clerk tomorrow and asking for my entire case file. They are assholes so I know there going to give a hard counter when I request it for free. Is there a specific statement I should say Or claim indigent? I will post updates here on my findings.
About the administrative process. 2nd notice was send and I’m going to continue the process because why not. In the foundations video there’s a step 3. which is sending the same package, titled Final attempt – (attach) Notice of default with opportunity to Cure. I think I found a suitable template for that on Scribd. My question is when do I send the FEE SCHEDULE from the course? Should I attach that as well or would that be a separate step?
Mac, please forgive my delayed response. It is due to health issues flaring up again. Yes, attach your fee schedule.
No worries, I wish you a speedy recovery, the world needs people like you. I went down to the Clerk’s office and took a look at things in my case file, which they do electronically at one of their computers now. I don’t know what exactly I’m looking for. But I did see things that were stamped in the signature line and not signed with ink. I will go back down there next week and request copies of everything. I will get a copy of the rules and procedures of the court. I plan on looking over it all throughout the week. I’ll highlight anything meaningful. Is there a way you could publish a list of some possible violations to look for. Or maybe a template we can use to file and get the court to take action on those violations.
I did some thinking… I’m pretty sure alot of us feel this way. At this point, I don’t even want to go after the Judge or any other official. I just want them to stop taking my money, a refund and cease intruding in my life and my kids lives. Especially when there’s no valid reason, threat or injury to anyone. I’m sure the Judge and court officials have families and kids and wouldn’t like it if they were treated the way they treat us. I don’t even want them to experience that. I just want the foolishness to stop…
The agency is in dishonor due to non-response, nor have I received any further mail from the agency. BUT the court issued a wage garnishment order during the administrative hearing, that I never signed. Do I stay the course with the administrative process? What’s the best course of action to get the Title IV-D “judge” and his fake order under control?
yes, keep moving forward with your admin process until you are satisfied with the results
I can only view the templates in read only, I can’t edit to use for my case.
Click the Save button to save it to your own Google Drive.
Hi Anelia! Hope all is well.
I’ve been studying the processes. However, when I go to download the templates, it only downloads them as a PDF, not a word doc so I can edit the red text. In addition, If I view it through google docs to attempt to edit, the font is funky and the red text doesn’t show up. Could you please attach the word doc to the course? OR is there another way to actually edit the templates? Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks a ton!
the Word doc continues to have this issue, there’s nothing I can do to fix it, you have to recreate the documents in Word
Hey Anelia,
I am having the same issue .
Hey Anelia,
If the court have entered a default judgment against me, will i still be able to file the appropriate paperwork and challenge the debt with CP?
Greeting sister Anelia. Thank you for sharing your acquired wisdom – SO empowering! I’m preparing to start the administrative process, but I have 2 questions:
I have ONLY received presentments from the court, NOT the Division of Child Support DCS (their name in my state). First payment was set Nov. 18th. I have researched their HQ (a few cities away) and have their PO BOX address, BUT there is also a local child support office (in the county they “served” me in) and on the local office’s website I see the directors name (to attach someones name to it) and I have their physical address. Which office would be ideal to send the paperwork to? Also, what are your thoughts on not receiving paperwork from the agency, just the court (Prosecuting Attorney – Family Support Division)? Thank you.
Also, since I haven’t received paperwork from the agency – I do not have an “account number” – only a “case number”
Does anyone who has gone through the first phases of the administration process have any suggestions? As time passes with no action I know that their up to something. Nothing just stays idle when dealing with serpents.
I have not received any response except for stating that my passport will be reinstated once I pay all my arrears! They have not responded to any of the other documentation I have sent.
Anne,
I am at the end per se of the time permitted for the course and I have not received a satisfactory response from the Child Support Agency (i.e. closing the case). I am sending out the 3rd round which should align me within my rights to present the documents to the court. You mention presenting the documents to the court and they have to rule non-judicially if I recall correctly. What does that process entail? I am not sure it was spelled out like the other information you provided. Also, how can I continue with the access I have until this is resolved? Thank you in advance and for the support you have provided thus far. Happy Holidays to Everyone also!!!!
Anelia, I live out of state from where my CS order is. Do I hand deliver the documents to the CS Office here where I live or have to travel back to where the CS originated? The CS Office here where I live is acting on behalf of the CS Office where the original Support Order originated. Also, I cannot find the Cover letter template.
Always send via mail with trackable service (priority mail, certified mail with return receipt, etc). The cover letter is the conditional acceptance.
In the course you spoke about the Jurat Section of the paper work where can I find that?
“If you do not have a Notary Public willing to send your paperwork, proceed with a Notary Public Jurat section on your paperwork.”
I’m unable to get the case workers last name what do I do and should I still send the paper work even though they haven’t given the the Last name? If someone can assist me that would be awesome.
Anelia, I just want to double check before I send the paperwork out. For an active CS order, do I send the courts the all the same paperwork as I do the Agency? If not, can you please list what I need to send to the courts?
Thank you..
Can anybody Please help me out?
Anelia, Do I send the Special Trust Deposit to the Courts also?
Also, when it says ACCOUNT NUMBER on the Surety Bond, That’s my SS# correct? Or The CS case Number?
account number is the cs case number
yes
Thank You…